if they continue than path they'll lose texas, north carolina florida. that's a formula in politics, you want to grow. you don't want to shrink. that is incumbent on the president to provide a framework. democrats should not think about this issue as we're better than republicans. democrats need to look at how important the latino population is to our country day in and day out, they are a part of our future. it needs to be more than we're better than the republicans, and this is a big ton consistent constituency and we need to support them. >> gavin: the gay marriage, two states affirmative and then they pull back in minnesota because of draconian legislation. you were in the thick of it. this is toxic even in our own party. >> look, you have been one of the singular leaders on this and demonstrated the courage on this issue, right? i think i would imagine for someone like yourself this is great. >> gavin: i'm not going it deny that. >> as i said, it's always better to be on the right side of history, an to be there early. >> at the wrong time. >> no, i